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UPDATE: Verizon Strikers, Young Democrats, Middle Class Protestors Plan Candelight March in West Nyack

Evening march to Verizon chairman’s house could draw up to 800 protestors.

Between 500 and 800 supporters of the strike against Verizon are expected at tonight’s protest march in West Nyack.

Members of the striking Communications Workers of America (CWA), International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW), Rockland Young Democrats, supporters in the labor community, clergy and elected officials are expected to participate in the candlelight vigil. The march is scheduled to begin at the Birchwood School and proceed about a quarter mile to Chairman of the Board Ivan Seidenberg’s house.

“We’re all going to be there. We have the neighboring locals and other middle class Americans coming over, ” said CWA 1107 Vice President Eric Goodwin.

Goodwin said members of CWA Locals 1103 Port Chester and 1120 Poughkeepsie, the IBEW and New Jersey locals will be joining them. Goodwin said they would be carrying a coffin and “signs showing middle class America’s heartbeat going from good to pretty much dead.”

Around 25 of Local 1103's Putnam County members are slated to attend as well, according to Chief Steward Pat McDonnell. He has been one of the dozens of workers rallying on Route 52 in Carmel since Sunday.

McDonnell said picketers have received tons of support from passers-by — in the form horn honks, thumbs-up and cheers — and one or two negative reactions. They have also received food and beverage donations from local businesses, including the lunch Healy's Corner Restaurant in Carmel delivered around 12:30 p.m. Friday.

"The morale is getting better," he told Patch. "We're talking to the public. We're fighting for the middle class."

McDonnell said that CWA members are willing to work without a contract, but not without bargaining rights.

"Big corporations just want to take everything away," he said.

Joe Coe of the Rockland County Young Democrats said they are participating in the march to support the middle class and bargaining rights. He expects between a dozen and 20 members of the group to attend including some elected officials.

“As democrats we need to make sure that collective bargaining is intact,” said Coe “When we stifle this, we do a great disservice to our country.”

A union statement says, “Verizon Chairman Seidenberg took home $81 million over the past four years – 300 times an average workers’ pay.” 

It lists several of Verizon’s proposals for a new contract: 

  • Eliminating disability benefits for workers injured while on the job.
  • Elimination of all job security provisions.
  • Eliminating paid sick days for new hires and limiting them to no more than five for any workers.
  • Freezing pensions for current workers and eliminating them for future employees.
  • Replacing current health care plan with a high-deductible plan requiring up to $6,800 in additional costs.

45,000 Verizon workers went on strike Sunday morning. CWA’s contract with Verizon covers 16,000 workers in New York, about 300 work in Rockland County. The company got injunctions restricting the number of protesters at Verizon facilities. Negotiations are ongoing in Rye Brook and Philadelphia. 

Southeast-Brewster Patch editor Ashley Tarr contributed to this report.

John T. August 13, 2011 at 02:55 pm
All those so called "union thugs" are our neighbors. The police, teachers, firemen, construction workers, verizon workers. They are also little league coaches, volunteers in our community. Their kids go to the same schools as yours. Maybe instead of bashing them for the fair wages and benefits they recieve you should join hands with your fellow workers and fight for better benefits and working conditions for yourself. Thats a UNION.
hugo August 13, 2011 at 08:43 pm
mr seidenberg used the current benefits we have to become ceo THE COMPANY PAID FOR HIS EDUCATION HE WAS A SPLICERS HELPER OUT OF BX RIVER GARAGE .SO YES HE SHOULD KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE
hugo August 13, 2011 at 08:46 pm
WHAT THEY DID IS NOT AGAINST THE CURRENT COURT ORDER. i HAVE A COPY
hugo August 13, 2011 at 08:48 pm
well said thank you brother
steve August 14, 2011 at 11:36 am
I don't work for Verizon and I am a middle class American-non union-and I can't ever remember a time where there was so much jealousy from one group of middle class workers regarding another group of middle class workers.The comments shouldn't be since I don't have something they shouldn't either, or I have to pay this so should they, it should be they have it, why don't I, or they don't pay for this why do I? Again the middle class fights with each other over crumbs. Pensions are not outdated, we've been brainwashed to think that they are and frankly, we don't have the balls to fight for it. I'm guilty too, believe me. The answer is obvious, join a union, it's only because they are in a Union and can bargain collectively that they have better leverage than the rest of us. It's why we all don't have defined pensions. It's why businesses belong to a chamber of commerce, strength in numbers. But I'm not jealous of the strikers, and I will proudly support them because they are my neighbors and friends.They live, work, and spend money in our communities.They are fighting against a greedy corporation that should be raising the standard of living for all Americans. Verizon made 15 Billion dollars in profit last year and paid nothing in federal income taxes, zero. Anyone else not pay taxes? If workers lose this fight, what do you think will happen to our wages and the benefits we have? I can answer that, our wages will not go up and we will pay more for, or have no benefits at all.
Julianna Williams August 14, 2011 at 11:55 am
steve wrote "...fighting against a greedy corporation..."
That is such a stupid brain-dead argument. You've been brain-washed by leftist pro-union propaganda. If all these corporations are so greedy, then why don't some of the MILLIONS of union workers start corporations that are NOT greedy, and that pay high wages, and give excellent benefits, and offer lots of vacation time, sick days, free child care, and all the other things that unions try to extort from the so-called greedy corporations??? If you don't like the job, go work elsewhere. Or start YOUR OWN COMPANY. And if you run your own company, BE SURE TO BE GENEROUS to your employees. Of course, union workers do NOT launch such wonderful corporations, despite MILLIONS of people needing jobs, and despite BILLIONS of dollars of venture capital being readily available. As for corporations paying no taxes......that is the fault of corrupt politicians NOT the fault of the corporations. Elect people who will fix the badly broken many-thousand-page tax codes of America. Of course, if leftists had their way and passed tax codes per their beliefs, then be prepared to have large corporations move out of America. Because that is exactly what would happen. Unions have been a large part of the problem with the economy. Union mentality does NOTHING to foster excellence in the workplace, but rather fosters mediocrity and lazy selfish "the-greedy-corporation-owes-it-to-me" mentality.
Meredith Lesly August 14, 2011 at 12:05 pm
You created an account on Patch yesterday, apparently to do nothing but spout standard radical right nonsense, Why should anyone take what you say seriously?
Julianna Williams August 14, 2011 at 12:06 pm
If unions are so altruistic, then why do they force members to pay fees???
Why, in many cases, are people FORCED to join the union??? Why do unions force employers to give the same pay raise to all workers instead of rewarding excellent work and NOT rewarding lazy and incompetent workers??? Commenter "John T" wrote "All those so called "union thugs" are our neighbors." Well, there are lazy selfish people everywhere. And even good people can be brain-washed into believing some "cause" is a good cause. Especially when it unfairly rewards them for little or no effort on their own part.
Julianna Williams August 14, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Commenter "Meredith Lesly" wrote "Workers deserve better that!"
WHY??? Why does a worker "deserve" anything beyond what the initial agreement between themself and their employer specifies? Just because they show up for work?? Unions foster incompetence. Unions discourage excellence by using intimidation and/or violence at times. Over the years I have asked many times, WHY don't some of the MILLIONS of union workers start their own corporations and pay high wages, and give excellent benefits, and offer lots of vacation time, sick days, free child care, and all the other things that unions try to extort from the so-called greedy corporations??? Why don't unions create their version of "GOOD" corporations? The competetion would help force the so-called "greedy" corporations to provide better conditions and benefits. Nobody has ever answered that question with any valid logical response. And I believe it is because unions are run by thugs, and have the support of millions of greedy people who have an entitlement mentality. Those people believe they "deserve" more pay, better benefits, etc., etc., etc., because the "greedy corporation" owes it to them. What a pathetic way to live one's life that is.
Julianna Williams August 14, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Commenter "Meredith Lesly" wrote:
"You created an account on Patch yesterday, apparently to do nothing but spout standard radical right nonsense, Why should anyone take what you say seriously?" Gee, such a clever intellectual statement. Care to provide an example of what you consider "radical right nonsense" ?? I signed up to comment on this topic because I have strong feelings about how badly unions are harming America and our economy. But of course, a leftist would not want to extend freedom of choice into this realm, because it is against their beliefs.
Meredith Lesly August 14, 2011 at 01:10 pm
My observation was not intended to be either clever or intellectual.
I'm not going to waste my time addressing all of your nonsense, so I'll just quote one bit: "Of course, union workers do NOT launch such wonderful corporations, despite MILLIONS of people needing jobs, and despite BILLIONS of dollars of venture capital being readily available." Individuals don't start corporations, they start small businesses and, if they're both smart and lucky, their business will grow. So your entire statement is moot right there. The old rule-of-thumb was that you should have at least a year's worth of money to live off of while you start a new business; I'm sure that it's more than that now. I rather doubt many middle class families have that kind of money in the bank or are willing to risk it in this economy. Small business owners are struggling, both because of low demand and because they can't get loans. That makes it even less appealing to start a new business. Finally, there aren't "BILLIONS of dollars of venture capital" readily available.
Pablo August 14, 2011 at 10:24 pm
I'm employed as an outside technician at Verizon. My job is a good paying job with great benefits. I know when i signed up to work for VZ that I had to work outside year round. That means freezing in the winter and sweating in the summer. I'm ok with that, I signed the dotted line. A few years later, the company rivals start going after vz core business -telephone service. We answered back and bulit out FiOs. We are slowy earning our customers back. The company makes BILLIONS of dollars and except for the greedy stockholders and upper mgmt who think the deserve a lot more- for what? I show up and do my job everyday and take issue with those who abuse vz's generous medical benefits/fmla. I would not mind if the company asked me to pay into my medical benefits. But, I will demand the pay raise I had to forego over the last 10 years to have paid medical. Also, when I have to explain every minute of my day to a manager who is a dope and is running scared from his manager, I expect to be compensated for my time and aggravation. No, I did not sign up to be managed by a dolt. I have to do his job at times and don't mind because I know I'm well compensated. My point is...I work hard, the company makes a lot of money off my labor, and I want to share in that success (stock is fickle and run by emotion - can't rely on that). Yes, they're are slobs who do not deserve our job, who take advantage. That goes on in every company. I have considered leaving but with 17 years invested....
brian August 15, 2011 at 12:19 am
If people would just ignore her and her arrogant, condescending attitude maybe she will just go away. Wishful thinking I know but we can hope. I am middle class middle of the road politically but I agree that it is time for the unions to give a little. Everyone else is making due with less. What makes the Unions better than the rest of us. Sacrifice during bad times and enjoy the surplus in the good times. I am not jealous of them because I am lucky enough to be my own boss. I am just trying to apply a little common sense to a touchy situation. Sorry Merideath, I am not an ultra right winger just an American who tries to see both sides instead of being a close minded bully who only sees things one way and condemns anyone who dares to dissagree.
tea ali August 15, 2011 at 12:26 am
Not sure where you got your 'facts' from. I worked with Verizon for 18 years. At the time that I left (5 years ago), I got 3 weeks vacation; 5 emergency days (2 of them unpaid); the people who worked 20+ years got 4 or more weeks vacation. There was also some sort of annual 'profit sharing' award. Not sure where you heard that employees get summers off. But I know that in the last department that I worked in, about 40% of the staff was out sick at one time. Some would 'play games' with sick time and then hide behind the union when approached by management. I just thought that you show your paperwork, you have no problems because you are following the companies absence policy as it was arranged with the union. There's no 'summer off'. Older employees making $100,000? Whoever you spoke to is making assumptions there. Medical? Depends on the plan you choose. I'll agree that I was spoiled, because you won't get these benefits at most other companies. Nothing wrong with giving your employees 'the best' if you can afford to. Let the unions negotiate for what they want. We'll see what they get when this is over.
tea ali August 15, 2011 at 12:33 am
@ Meredith...
"Ah, another person who magically appeared a few days ago to post about the Verizon strike". There's nothing 'magical' about me more than anyone else posting here. Not sure why you need to point me out. Is this your little club? I don't understand why you made this comment, but I'll try to stay out of your way.
kat August 15, 2011 at 01:31 am
Can't we all be friends ???? God does not like ugly and a lot of you are.
tea ali August 15, 2011 at 03:43 am
Meredith deleted her apology. She said that she thought I was someone else.
Meredith Lesly August 15, 2011 at 11:38 am
Thank you for noting my apology. After posting it and noticing that you had deleted the comment that I had responded to, I decided the best thing would be to remove my offending comment as well to try and clean things up. I knew you would get my apology via email.
I use my own name and own my words. When it appears that I made a mistake, I try to correct it. Wouldn't it be great if more people did that?
Meredith Lesly August 15, 2011 at 11:47 am
I agree that it's fair for unions to give a little, depending on circumstances, of course. Contributing a little more to their benefits seems reasonable to me, although as pointed out above, $100/month is a lot for someone earning $26K a year. (That's what Medicare costs these days, btw.)
If it's true that Verizon is seeking $1 billion in concessions, however, that goes way beyond asking for union members to give a little. Verizon has thus far refused to say what they're demanding of the unions, which makes it hard to evaluate the situation. Clearly Verizon is asking far more than asking the union to "give a little", though, or there wouldn't have been a strike.
tea ali August 15, 2011 at 02:31 pm
"Thank you for noting my apology".
Apology accepted. ;)
Denise Ward August 16, 2011 at 01:41 pm
the sooner the union is busted, the better off those who really want to work will be. these lazy, selfish strikers, sabotaging phone lines all over the eastern seaboard are hurting no one but the small businesses that rely on verizon to keep them open. go back to work or get out of the way for those who are actually willing to work for a living.
Meredith Lesly August 16, 2011 at 02:08 pm
Wow. Angry much?
They want to work for a living. This isn't over the union workers wanting a raise. It's about the company wanting them to go backwards: lose benefits they have now.
Chris M August 16, 2011 at 03:06 pm
Meredith - give it a rest. It's not about the Union members losing anything. It's about paying something towards there benefits like the rest of the company. It's about getting paid for performance, a novel idea, you work hard and do a good job, you should be rewarded as such. You slack off and don't do the job efficiently, you don't get rewarded as much as the next guy. Most of the Union employees want to go back to work, I sure do but I'll be ostracized like anyone else who goes against the Union bosses.
Meredith Lesly August 16, 2011 at 03:34 pm
You obviously haven't read about what the company is asking. (Not that it's public in its entirely.) The strike isn't over increased benefits, it's over Verizon taking back what the union fought for.
Chris M August 16, 2011 at 04:01 pm
Meredith - I haven't read about what the company is asking and neither have you since it's not published anywhere. Verizon and the Unions are negotiatin, so what they are negotiating is probably changing (slightly) everyday. Stop with the "Verizon is taking back what the Union fought for" crap. Verizon wants Union members to pay some towards there healthcare, convert pensions to 401k's and make the Union workers actually work for there bonuses/rewards, not automatically get a raise even if you're a lousy employee. This is exactly what Verizon has asked their non-Union employees to do for the past decade...now it's the Unions turn.
Blue August 16, 2011 at 05:51 pm
Here here!!! Got this from Jeffrey Miron today:
In economics, as in sports, we should adopt good rules and insist that everyone play by them. Then we should stand back and applaud the winners
jeff meyer August 16, 2011 at 08:05 pm
Holly: What exactly is caving in a little? The devil is always in the detail. What might seem a little to you is a great deal to someone else. The CWA is not special. They are just intelligent enough to understand that organized labor benefits them more then being at the mercy of management. It is their union and the rights of collective bargaining that has gained them decent wages, pensions, sick days, vacation days and many other benefits. They did not receive this compensation package through the kindness and generosity of management. If you don't like Verizon Inc. or their employees then choose another company to service your needs. You have the right to do that,and the CWA has the right to strike. Stay strong CWA. Jeff Meyer Tuckahoe
jeff meyer August 17, 2011 at 01:40 am
Holly: I do not nor ever have worked for Verizon. However, I strongly support the CWA. BTW Your comments are just wonderful. JM
eddy August 17, 2011 at 11:13 pm
Hey julianna,
I know i jumped on a little late here but it sounds like your a company woman. I once worked for a company woman who tried to fire one of my co-workers for slipping on a patch of ice while carrying a ladder. She also advised someone to climb a pole in a thunderstorm. These are the things that unions protect us from. Remember the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire? Google It. I feel bad for anyone that works for you.
henderson123 August 21, 2011 at 08:33 pm
I just paid $22.87 for an iPad2-64GB and my girlfriend loves her Panasonic Lumix GF 1 Camera that we got for $38.76 there arriving tomorrow by UPS. I will never pay such expensive retail prices in stores again. Especially when I also sold a 40 inch LED TV to my boss for $675 which only cost me $62.81 to buy. Here is the website we use to get it all from, CoolCent. com

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