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Crossroads 312: What Do You Think about Traffic?

I want to hear your opinion: What's your opinion on the state of traffic in Southeast?

I'm curious. Southeast residents, do you think traffic in Southeast has been decreasing over the last couple of years? Do think there is less gridlock or congestion since 2009?

My personal experience has been more and more bottleneck. Especially the end of Route 312 by Route 22, where I've been backed up onto Route 312 for about half a mile. Of course Route 22 is the pits, especially when you need to turn left without a traffic light.  

Then my favorite road...North Brewster Road, which can be impossible to make a left hand turn. Add in school buses and commuting traffic, I've sat at the intersection for a good 5 minutes just hoping someone will let me out.

Tell me your experiences. 

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Susan Riley August 30, 2012 at 01:28 PM
Dreadful! I don't think there should be any more development along the route 22 and 312 corridors until the roads are improved and widened. There have been times when it's taken me 20 minutes to get from the end of 684 heading north to Mount Ebo Road. And if you take 312 towards 22, you can sit in that intersection for several light changes before you can get through. It's extremely frustrating. I'm glad 22 was widened a little bit, but it's not enough to rectify the situation. Why aren't the Southeast officials dealing with this at all? I've lived here for 12 years and everyone promises improvements but there's been next to bupkis.
Lavender August 30, 2012 at 01:46 PM
Traffic is definitely getting worse in Southeast. 312 has gotten so bad that I try not to go to the stores in the shopping center that houses Home Depot. And I learned years ago to avoid 22 at certain hours. Unfortunately, widening the roads will only serve to increase traffic on those roads.
Randy Maurer August 30, 2012 at 03:08 PM
DOT is the blame for most of the traffic jam's. For example they widened route 22 south at the intersection of 312. That should have been made a right turn only lane. Traffic backs up in the right lane waiting to make a right turn while some dummy is sitting at the light waiting to go straight, knowing that the lane will end in 500 feet. Traffic at Milltown road and 22 is caused by a light that allows too many cars to exit Mahopac National bank and Milltown road. Traffic on 312 and Route 6 is caused by a light on Route 6 and Simpson road. All mismanaged by DOT.
bruce schuchat August 30, 2012 at 04:07 PM
exactly right, randy!!!!
Laura August 30, 2012 at 05:13 PM
I've lived in Southeast for 4 years and believe it's bad and getting worse. I avoid 22 and 312 especially at rush hour times. I commute 684 and I'm thankful I have Sodom and Brewster Hill Rds to cut through. Although Brewster Hill Rd has become quite busy in the morning.
KAC August 30, 2012 at 06:42 PM
I live on Brewster Hill Road and the traffic is horrible. It is 30 miles an hour on that street and people drive more than 50+! There is a straight away on that road that people speed on. It's really bad. It is a residental road and there are many kids that live on that street. It is getting more dangerous every day.
Ann Fanizzi August 31, 2012 at 11:26 AM
The DOT responds either to town official complaints or plans set forth by developers which generally underestimate traffic and strain on roads incurred by their projects. Read on Town of Southeast website Lepler's plans for Rte 312 from Rte 22 and especially the plans for the intersection of Rte 312 and Rte 6. You haven't seen anything yet.
Ann Fanizzi August 31, 2012 at 11:32 AM
The old expression "build and they will come" is the cause of the traffic mess here in Southeast. Back in the 60s, they built 22, 684 and 84, and along came residential and commercial development. Now the town and the DOT are faced with trying to fit additional development on and off roads that are already strained to the limit. There is a price to pay; no free lunch if you support Crossroads 312 as proposed.
Elizabeth R. Apgar Triano August 31, 2012 at 01:38 PM
Traffic is awful but we can't just blame developers. Anyone who moved up here in the past, oh, twenty years is part of the "problem." And it's not just the big roads like 22 and 312. I hate driving through the center of town in Brewster, and in Carmel as well for that matter. The worst bit in Carmel is only about one block, near the diner (except on Sundays) but for Brewster it's that whole long curve near the RR station. I know there are little shops there, and there's the library and the museum, but with people parking on both sides, the various roads intersecting, pedestrians, etc., I just wanna get through town and not stop. Doesn't help the small businesses if driving near them is a nightmare. We need a traffic light at Exit 18, and people need to obey the traffic laws!! That means not running lights, not tailgating, not speeding, not passing in illegal places. I don't know whether more shops/more development will help. People have pointed out how much retail space lies empty in Putnam. Probably as long as the Almighty Dollar is king, and people would rather save a little by shopping online or at WalMart, rather than at stores that pay a decent wage, our culture will be dysfunctional in terms of people flow and shop availability. We can wish for better shops, but the market won't support them.
Samantha Jacobs August 31, 2012 at 07:50 PM
I have problems too with the light at Route 312/Route 22. When school is in I can sit in backed up traffic way down on 312. Then you creep all the way to the light. It's the pits.
Samantha Jacobs August 31, 2012 at 07:53 PM
You can take your life into hands on Route 22. Making a left hand turn out of a store can be frightening. I try to shop on Route 22 in the morning after rush hour. That way the traffic is broken up a bit so you can cross the road.
Samantha Jacobs August 31, 2012 at 07:56 PM
I travel home from work on Brewster Hill Road...and yes what's the deal with people going so fast??? I keep within the limit and other drivers are ruthless. Some drivers must be going about 50 on that road. It's a residential neighborhood....I agree KAC...you never know when a child or a jogger will be around the corner. In fact I saw one jogger on your road with a shirt that read "Slow down and share the road".
Samantha Jacobs August 31, 2012 at 08:07 PM
I wonder why exit 18 didn't get a traffic light? I recently went to Patterson and exit 18 is the pits. People going really fast and it's hard to see traffic from the left. I feel a problem with Brewster Main Street is the train station....lots of people coming and going from the train. Lots of cars picking people up. Lots of people hanging out on main street. It's a lot to focus on. Especially when you want to get to the other side. I agree about your comments on shopping. It's all the same stuff everywhere. Nothing very different. Shopping is all about finding it the cheapest. There are some local stores I love - like Palmers hardware, the Ups Store and the Feedbarn. I know the people in the store, they are friendly and have responsible prices. It is a hard balance to find in our times.
Ann Fanizzi September 01, 2012 at 06:56 AM
The right and left turning lanes on Exit 18 were the result of a $1.5 million grant from the DOT received by the Town of Patterson in the words of the Supervisor, to "remedy safety issues" and was to include traffic lights. Safety issues were a cover for Camarda who as part of the approval process for his 400,000 sq. ft+ Patterson Crossing mega retail project, was to assume financial responsibility for all road imprvements and didn't. Who is to bear responsibility for the drastic traffic changes that must occur if Crossroads 312 is approved?
Southeaster September 02, 2012 at 09:00 PM
@Randy Maurer: That's a spot-on assessment of the traffic flow problems! And some of those new lights have hurt more than they've helped.
Southeaster September 02, 2012 at 09:05 PM
In my experience, traffic throughout Southeast has gotten worse but especially on 312 and 22 and in Brewster Village. I don't see how 312 can support much more traffic as it is, and I would hate to see it turn into a Rt. 9 or Rt. 7. One of the things I love about this town is that it doesn't have huge, congested four-lane roads like that. I find it so stressful to shop and travel in those areas and avoid it as much as possible.
paula September 07, 2012 at 09:47 PM
I am a resident of Tonetta Lake and am equally frustrated with the traffic and congestion on Route 312, Route 22 and even North Brewster Rd. We have only been in the area for 2 years, but it is really the pits. I frequently jog along North Brewster (to save money on gym membership). This area can't afford to grow without fixing some of the issues we have!

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